Our political editor, WALTER CRONXITE, reports on a Croydon politician’s televised African problem
There were genuine concerns among Croydon Tories last night, after the recording of this week’s episode of the BBC’s Question Time programme in north London, that Croydon South MP Chris Philp might struggle to find his way from Tottenham all the way to Coulsdon.
Questioned time: Chris Philp is a Oxford-educated Conservative government minister
Philp, a cheerleader for “Thick Lizzy” Truss when she was the country’s disastrous and most short-lived Prime Minister, has made a career out of being a media punch bag for his Conservative government’s unpopular and controversial policies, appearing on TV and radio to take blow after blow of criticism without ever a flinch.
The Croydon MP, remember, was once subjected to a barrage of accusations of lying on national television by rail union chief Mick Lynch. It was like water off a duck’s back for Philp, who appeared impervious to the charges.
His devotion to Conservative duty has earned Philp the tag “a nose in search of a bum”, according to Grauniad sketchwriter John Crace.
But last night, in a few brief minutes on QT, Philp “jumped the shark”, quickly becoming a meme and a national laughing stock, all at the same time.
An arse in search of an atlas.
This was how the far-right Torygraph reported the always robotic Philp’s latest claim to unwanted notoriety:
The jokes keep coming: Chris Philp’s last known whereabouts are not known
“Policing minister Chris Philp appeared to confuse the countries of Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of the Congo on Question Time.
“Responding to an audience member’s question during the BBC One programme, the MP for Croydon South seemed to ask whether ‘Rwanda is a different country to Congo’.
“The audience member, who said he came from the Democratic Republic of the Congo, asked: ‘Had my family members come from Goma [a city on the country’s border] on a crossing right now, would they then be sent back to the country they are supposedly warring – Rwanda?
“’Does that make any sense to you?’
“Mr Philp replied: ‘No, I think there’s an exclusion on people from Rwanda being sent to Rwanda.
“After the audience member objected that his parents were ‘not from Rwanda’, the Conservative MP appeared to ask: ‘Well, I mean, Rwanda is a different country to Congo isn’t it?
“’It’s a different country?'”
And in typically Torygraph understatement, they added: “The comment caused a short outburst of laughter from some members of the debate programme’s audience.”
The laughter has barely stopped today, as people catch up with the latest dropped bollock by a sorry excuse for a government minister.
In an effort to save some face, “an ally of Mr Philp”, as described by a BBC report, “suggested the minister had been posing a rhetorical question, rather than a real one”. Oh yeah…
Philp is far from the first Tory politician to make themselves appear like a thick pillock. Truss herself didn’t know the difference between the Baltic and the Black Sea. And she was Foreign Secretary at the time. Therese Coffey thought Kigali was a country. It is the captial city of Rwanda.
And this is far from the first time that Philp has been skewered by his own ineptitude on national television. The thing is: why did he bother? Why defend the indefensible?
From a government that has delivered up serial crocks of shit as legislation, the Rwanda Bill is the shittiest crock of shit going. The panel of experienced judges in the Supreme Court declared Rwanda to be an “unsafe” country. This law seeks to rule that Rwanda is a “safe” country. Philp and this Tory government passed the Rwanda Bill into law this week.
Rwanda remains etched on many people’s memories because of the genocidal civil war waged by the country’s government on ordinary Rwandans for four years in the early 1990s. That war spilled out and affected neighbouring countries in central Africa, and made tens of thousands of people refugees.
Laugh a minute: the Chris Philp gags might dry up sometime in the next six months
Much in the region remains unresolved and uncertain. Rwanda certainly does not have a clean bill of health as far as its more recent human rights record is concerned.
As the Torygraph puts it: “There has been a long history of violent conflict between the neighbouring African countries.”
But Rwanda is coining it, making millions from Britain’s Tory government, who are paying a possible £500million for the central African state to take, at most, a couple of hundred refugees.
Apparently, the Tories’ candidate for London Mayor, Susan Hall (who?), is a big fan…
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“Let’s think the unthinkable” in the words of St. Margaret of Grantham. Philp doesn’t “appear like a thick pillock”, he really is the genuine article.
Nope studied a science at Oxford- so not thick. The unthinkable for others to think is that he fully knows what he is doing and the harm that it causes.
Perhaps the reality is that his career is everything and he has a family to provide for and that comes first last and everywhere else no matter what?
He also became involved in an infamous incident with OJ Simpson while at Oxford, which again provides more evidence against your diehard support. Keep rhetorically digging and buy him a hearing aid.
You’ve grabbed a scrap, Derek, but not everyone finds it as tasty as you. Move on. Think big.
If supporting Philp against real life is thinking big Sally. Most would ascribe a different meaning to your thinking. Lets move on to that indeed.
The Evening Pravda says “A source close to Mr Philp insisted he was not confused about African geography, but had simply found it difficult to hear what the questioner was saying.”
Our Chris isn’t hard of hearing. He’s just thick
He’s not thick, but he is hopeless in these situations. Having watched the offending exchange, I’m inclined to think he was making a clumsty rhetorical comment. He’d deffo benefit from some media training, but perhaps he’s just too arrogant or stubborn? Once he reads IC’s coverage, he might think again.
I know you are a diehard supporter. But just like Philp, how many times does an example have to be repeated before you realise the truth?
With Ben Taylor not knowing the difference between Coulsdon and South Croydon, it seems that neither the Labour nor the Tory candidate in that constituency is too hot on geography.
Any declarations of interest, Major?
Coulsdon is in the South Croydon constituency. The Democratic Republic of Congo is not within Rwanda. How hot are you on geography?
George: the constituency is Croydon South.
In 2022, the candidate who had delivered Labour’s worst ever result in a Croydon Council election stood again, in a by-election in South Croydon ward (note the difference between the ward and constituency titles). During the campaign, the candidate disingenuously claimed that he lived locally. He lives in Coulsdon. When caught out, he claimed he meant Croydon South.
I hope that clears things up.
We are told by some politicians that there are many overseas with the belief that England is paved with gold and that working hard can give them a better life.
They want to dissuade people from that idea by sending them to Rwanda and excuse that by heart thumping about those that die on the crossing in unsafe boats.
But stating that this Country will pay $500m to ship even 500? even a thousand equates to £500k per person. But did no one ever think that people just look at the eye watering figures the Tory are wasting and think well if they have that much money to give away there must be lots more and the streets are paved with ruddy diamonds.
Reall with the cost of a decent Lifeboat at about £300k (D class are £110k with a decent radar) Simple border protection coast guard/lifeboat is cheaper and safer along with them not just being to prevent deaths for real in the Channel but also making drug smuggling, and other crimes more difficult.
Repurposing a satalite for the channel is an option to provide inteligence for French and British authorities
And finally a few Naval fast boats would be a better spend of that % of GDP investing in our armed forces as the politicians in power keep bleating on about.